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foxfire82
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Topic: Abandoned kittensPosted: 24 May 2011 at 3:09pm |
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I have a mother cat inside my home with 4 (5 week old) kittens. I recently got two abandoned kittens that seem to be 3-4 weeks old. They do decently at eating completely moist catfood and kitten formula on their own. I have introduced them to the other kittens and they get along fine but the queen(mother) gets frustrated with them and hisses and swats them. She has actually let them nurse on her as long as I love on her to distract her. I'm just too afraid to leave them alone with her.
Will it be best to keep trying to get queen to accept the abandoned kittens or should I raise them seperately by hand? I'm at a loss on what to do and only want whats best for all of them. Please help.
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 6:32am |
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If they are eating on their own it is best to keep them away from the younger kittens until they are doing the same. The Queen is protecting her young which is instinct, and though she probably won't kill the resident kittens, she might do them some harm. You want to keep mom's stress level low or you may find out she will harm her own litter.
Let the older kittens have their own space in the house and keep mom and kitties in one room. Once the kittens are weaned and mom is spayed- then let the kittens together this will indeed take pressure off the mom.
Thanks for saving these babies, but yes, keep them apart for now.
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3catsn1dog
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 4:47pm |
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I found 3 kittens in a box and brought them and have been caring for them/keeping them in my garage. Can I/should I be able to bring them into the house with my other 3 grown cats, 2 females, one male, all fixed? If so, when should I integrate them?
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Posted: 26 May 2011 at 10:11am |
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Any time you bring a new cat or kittens into your home, you need to keep them separated from the other resident cats. They should all go to the vet first and be tested for all the bad stuff and then if they check out healthy, bring them inside and put them into a room by themselves. You have to give everyone a chance to adjust to new scents and activity and that can take anywhere from two weeks to a couple of months.
Remember that if you bring more cats into an established home you upset that routine of those cats and stress can occur which causes health issues. Cats aren't like people, you can't just put them all into the same area and expect them to get along. You also have to set up the house to accomodate more cats- more litter pans, scratching posts, condos, places where the cats can get off the floor when they feel stressed. Not doing this properly, opens your home to becoming a territorial battlefield with spraying being the main weapon of choice.
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Carla Butler
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Posted: 04 Sep 2011 at 11:14am |
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do cats also spray if hteir routine is upset like i used to leave cats out in and out until the chickens arrived in the back and dessie was spraying more than once so now i let him out at evening i nthe gardens and he comes in at morning and he does not do spraying as such see i have an old frontdoor and he was spraying at it and i just wash it now and the frontdoor has to be replaced anywhay but do you think spraying because he could not be let out his routine upset he does get wild with the girls see i got those female kittens and i have a lot of females now so he keeps running now arfter them at times dessie is still young maybe 1 year now but do you think htat is the spraying all the females and he gets stress3ed and sprays i do not really mind the spraying now as if i do self atering and move out once the frontdoor is goine and dessie in his new house which would have an garden as many houses have a garden the smell be gone and the bed i took the material off it and just have an rubbisbag at the side of the bed as cats when underneat the bed made an hole in it when they arrived first so they like the hiding place and now they play undeneath it see i have a catminded house so now he sprays at the rubbishbag i have at the side and a catlitterbox tray underneath the plastic bag kinda funny but he sprays at that and i just replace hte bags the bin i ahve an rubbidxh bag against the wal and the bin he sprays on so i jsut wash that i have rubbisbags in the kitchewn window sill undernath the kitchen blind os kinda funny if people came but dessie just sprays at it so he is not really doing any damage but i think becausew there is a lot of females he is stressed they run away and so jasper the friendly new black cat thrown at my door justr sprays over dessie spraying i kinda studying the cats see i can not leave them out during hte day as there are chickens butg they do not really do any harm as things can be washed i took the material of the couch as it was old and havae rubbishbags at the sides and he just sprays at the rubbish bags so if anyone has a wall or something maybe put a rubbishbag at it aned a tray underneat so the liquid goes on the tray
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Posted: 05 Sep 2011 at 7:57am |
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Cats spray for a lot of different reasons- they spray because they are marking their territory, they could be stressed, they could be sick. Their might be a female in heat nearby and he will spray to tell the other tomcats to back off or he may spray to tell the female where he is located.
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Carla Butler
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Posted: 05 Sep 2011 at 8:39am |
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hi
i had several female kittens in heat and 1 is still not neutured as she was the black kittgen a friend found and she survived she was very ill now she can be netuured but all females have been in heat i never knew he was spraying as i thought cats do not spray after netuuring but i really do not mind not sick cats he was used to go out now and then very safe area and now i let him out again sometimes at evening but jasper sprays over him now and runs indeed after all the females in the house and now lucky is spraying but not running after the females i think it is a male thing see i protected everything wiht rubbish bags and the frontdoor has to go anyway it is interesting to study cats and the things they do htey all like each other jasper now also goes out sometimes as he was thrown at my door but now vacinated and neutured and he already had been in the street that night he arrived i do not mind really as when i have done up the house in november i go to move to a house with a garden and make a cat enclosure |
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Carla Butler
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 10:19am |
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well i do have a black female not neutured yet as i did a few cats and kittens outside these will not make kittens again and some rehomed in hte last few months but i never neutured her as yet see the spraying is fine to me as long as i know where they spray and the cats and ktitens had great fun using hte things they now spray on. so two more cats the church cats i can not do as the men keeps feeding and we can not go into his garden. even though he gives permission i do not let a trap overnight in his garden htis was last januari in the snow and freezing conditions he wanted me to set hte trap overnight he is alwyas on the go so he does not like people ringing hte bell and in the church a crazy woman comes out throwing catfood around hte trap boycotting she has a cat too and loves bringing kittens to the vet for rehoming and the sick kittens to be put to sleep neuturing the cat oh no but hte male cat is getting old and medical care nobody does so no hope as if i take a ktiten and rehome i neuture vaccinate and bloodtest the ktiten so each kitten 150 and up as some have bad teeth no good food so for that money???i can neuture a few male cats a male cat is 14 euro on a voucher and even though i hate to think the cats in the church are getting kittens again and have already there are cats all over kilkenny and for the 150 up i can do lots of male cats as i only keep bringing kittens to the vet which i love i rehome them but the money caters for a lot of female cats elsewhere who also get ktitens so i ahve made a decision no female cats in hte church i will neture anymore the mommy cat has a female ktiten from last year i could not get her off the men and a boy kitten htere is a new female tabby cat young is owned now having kittens i think and the old lady female they will keep getting kittens so i took two abandoned kittens from mommy from my husbands area they also need rehoming and nobody will feed in this area so i save money that way on chicken mackerel and tuna so mluch money on food and in this area where my husband lioves nobody feeds and i have a cat in a second no cats now the fathercat 82 for neuturing and bloodtesting to see if kittens were healthy see male cats all over hte place so if htat street likes kittens let them have it as if i do different streets no kittens born in those streets for 4 kittens i pay over 700 to the vet and mommy is still not neutured and the men from the apartments needs to be teached a lesson and the lady with the chickens i have to keep cats in for chickens she is new in the streeet and does not like cats in her garden renting so let them hafve kittens they say i owe all the cats in the street nutters i came rfor noth to have ktitens invading the gardens well next year there be many as two litters are now black daddy was black and knocked down so these ktitens will mulktiply and next year they know why i neture so patethic mommy is 22 euro ktitens lsat year 700 asnd up and now two new litters there is a tabby and a white still on our side walking i will neturue those but htechurch will alwyas havae kittens unless the males 2 from the church come my direction and there is a black female too from a men who has the sick cat see i love to neuture cats so now i have decided to do cats in different streets as they make kitens too so if the street loves ktitens let them have them
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 10:22am |
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the two tabby kittens are so lovely and cute ready to go in a few weeks they are so lovely and are doing fine htey ae now in their fifth week they were underweight so i use clinicat and a little bit of ktiten food they get so the clinicat says 100 ml of kittenmilk including hte water you add and if they aser underfed last week mommy was not able anyumore to probide the milk she was exhausted fromk al lthe kittens and crossing htye street to other kittens 2 in an old lady garden. if it says 100 ml the vet said last week to give as much as they want so i did and i also had to give some kittenfood they said but how much kitten food do you give???i jsut give until they leave some see i gav htem first last week a little kitten soft whiskas first and tehn i did the milk and then i gave more until every time they stopped so they got plenty but how much food or milk should you give a ktiten that was underfed they wesre feeling the bones on one they are now superfine so how much should they have in liquid for not to be over fed
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